Posted by In an interview with George Dobell for Cricinfo, the outgoing chief executive of the Professional Cricketers’ Association, Angus Porter, suggests that men’s cricket could adopt the points method used in women’s cricket where success in T20Is, ODIs and Tests is combined to decide the best side.
Not the worst idea of all time.
One of the major issues in the sport is that we frequently have tours where one nation overwhelmingly cares about one-dayers while the opposition only really cares about Tests. They’re not different. It’s all cricket. Why not draw the formats together, rather than pitting them against each other?
For all the talk about how we can revive the ailing longer format with day-night cricket and some form of Test championship, the truth is that cricket, in a broader sense, is in relatively rude health – so why not exploit that?
Cricket is all about diversity: different pitches, different weather, different approaches to batting, different types of bowler – and yes, even different durations of match. It makes perfect sense to treat it all as one.
You want every match to have context? How about if all those meaningless one-dayers and dead-rubber Tests contributed to establishing which is the best team at cricket?
A World Test Championship? So limiting. Why not have a World Cricket Championship? Everyone could get behind that.
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Four-day Tests – slightly less of the duration and epic scope that define the game’s longest format
How many Tests against India in 2014?
No offence to Tilak Varma or Nathan Ellis but these India v Australia T20s are probably even less of a big deal than the last “irrelevant” post World Cup series
A fun cricket game
as long as we have bonus points also, then I am happy
ex. bonus points in Test Cricket by sessions won (1 point for each session won and 0.5 if no clear winner of session) would be nice
and bonus points in limited overs matches can be based on following formula derived from Net Run rates & revised Duckworth_Lewis_Stern target
for losing teams – 0 points
for winning teams –
2 points for winning
+
absolute of (difference in DLS adjusted total of chasing team
– total of team batting first)
divide by total number of overs
for no result – 1 point for each team
for tie – 1.5 points for each team
correction:
divide by total number of *final DLS determined target overs* in above formula
I’ve got to admit, I’m one of those people who feels that T20 is a bastardisation of the game, and ODIs are part of the way there. So while I don’t mind the idea that a tour should have a points system, the idea that somehow 3 T20s are as important as a Test in determining cricket-goodness sets my teeth on edge.
I’m all in favour of a points-based system. I’d propose a setup whereby the total points available for all of the one-day matches/series is less than the number available for winning the test series. That should do it.
There’s no reason why a Test whitewash couldn’t outrank (outpoint?) the other two series combined.
There’s no reason this couldn’t happen alongside the current ‘system’ – keep the Test rankings , the ODI rankings and the T20 rankings, but also have an overall ‘World Cricket Championship’ (maybe with some sort of second tier for associate nations, which could provide a criteria for Test status that isn’t entirely format-specific?)
Test series would still have to have their ‘special’ status though. At a minimum, The Ashes should still be The Ashes: I don’t think I could cope with a 2-1 Test series win being ‘overturned’ by a 3-0 T20 series loss, for example.
The weighting of points would be key. If they’re as serious about Test cricket being ‘the pinnacle’ as they make out they are, the points should reflect this.
Not sure how the world cup champions would fit in.
That’s the cup. This would be the league.
As long as all the ODIs and T20s are weighted so that they are worth less than a draw in one Test, I’m okay with this.
I’d still rather get rid of all the ODIs and T20s and have an extra Test.
Except I’m not paying attention to Tests any more either until Ian Bell gets recalled, anyway.
In other news, Vernon Philander’s back, at some point, and among the Saffer chat forums there are murmurings that ABdV’s back may be about to give out at some point, probably due to all that squatting at the wickets he’s now expected to do. In short, James Taylor is key to this series.
Hah! Short.
Three points for a test win, two for an ODI, and one for a T20, awarded for the first three matches in any series. Additional matches in certain series wouldn’t get points, but can be played anyway. In most cases this would mean that the points matches would also be live matches in the series, so there wouldn’t be a dead-rubber involved in a points win.
That’s eighteen points for each tour, with tests predominant but not overwhelming, and series still maintaining their status.
And absolutely not under any circumstances never never never bonus points. Sport is about setting some rules and seeing how teams go about winning the match under them. If the resulting sport is not what you want, CHANGE THE RULES. Seriously rugby union, if you’re desperate for tries get rid of drop goals, give free kicks for all technical infringements and shift the defence back ten yards from every ruck. Then sit back and enjoy.
I refuse to watch any sport wherein technical infringements potentially carry a reward worth 60% of the value of achieving the PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THE GAME.
In other words…. Rugby League?
League, Cup, wotevs
What about batting and bowling points in the CC?
“it’s all cricket, so why not treat them as one?”
I demand that second division county championship matches should also be counted towards the officially-mandated ICC points total.
As should the SM40 first division.
Look, you’re going to have to stop having good ideas. You’ll just end up all frustrated and twitchy and grumpy when ICC set up a committee to look into the idea with a remit to report at some point during the next millennium or two.
Ideas will do you no good in the long run.
Afridi always treated them the same. A pioneer!